Congratulations to Gary McKinnon and the campaign in this country to block his extradition to America.
On 16th October British Home Secretary, Theresa May bowed to domestic pressure and medical opinion to refuse US demands for Gary McKinnon to be taken to America to answer charges, that carefully do not state that he massively embarrassed the Pentagon, whose computer security was shown to fall somewhat short of PayPal and that is his alleged "crime".
It is widely felt in this country that the US judicial system is fundamentally unjust and it appears to be primitive, brutal and vindictive, in other words, not fit to be called proper justice at all according to the basic tenets of Common Law which include Habeas corpus as a central pillar.....whereas a common belief abroad is that the US has a judicial system that is as politically manipulated, mired in corruption and as base as the most backward banana republic in the developing world, or one of the absurd Sharia jurisdictions the US props up in the Middle East.
The suspension of Habeas Corpus has occurred before in United States history; former (and current) president(s) Abraham Lincoln, Ulysses Grant, George W. Bush, and Barack Obama have all signed the suspension of Habeas Corpus. The right has also been suspended in Britain during wartime when internment of aliens was allowed without the normal Common Law rights and safeguards. Habeas Corpus was not technically suspended by British internment in Northern Ireland during the Troubles but this is another important civil rights issue that cannot be addressed meaningfully here, but one I will try to return to in due course.
The suspension of Habeas Corpus has occurred before in United States history; former (and current) president(s) Abraham Lincoln, Ulysses Grant, George W. Bush, and Barack Obama have all signed the suspension of Habeas Corpus. The right has also been suspended in Britain during wartime when internment of aliens was allowed without the normal Common Law rights and safeguards. Habeas Corpus was not technically suspended by British internment in Northern Ireland during the Troubles but this is another important civil rights issue that cannot be addressed meaningfully here, but one I will try to return to in due course.
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| Gary McKinnon |
These are the real reasons why Theresa May dared not defy the overwhelming will of the British people and could not condemn Gary McKinnon to American injustice, cruelty and officially sanctioned violence.
So she did what we have been demanding from British ministers for decades, she told the Americans no chance. She had no real choice... but in the end she speaks with the authority of the vast majority in this country.
Since the decision was announced various US politicians, lawyers and reincarnated old testament prophets have been heard in the British media venting their spleen at this perceived insult....Washington insiders have described the reaction as vacillating between incandescent and confounded.....that's fine, life's like that.... so best get over it...and stop crying over spilt milk.
Only those in a 'special relationship' such as the one that exists between our two empires and these great nations of ours blah, blah, blah ... only we 'special' friends can say this.... and Theresa May couldn't have said it more clearly, Gary McKinnon is not being extradited to America on Human Rights grounds.
That actually is a decision of the British government that is truly monumental after decades of conjoined mutuality with the US and I salute Theresa May for doing the right thing.
Only those in a 'special relationship' such as the one that exists between our two empires and these great nations of ours blah, blah, blah ... only we 'special' friends can say this.... and Theresa May couldn't have said it more clearly, Gary McKinnon is not being extradited to America on Human Rights grounds.
That actually is a decision of the British government that is truly monumental after decades of conjoined mutuality with the US and I salute Theresa May for doing the right thing.
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| Theresa May Home Secretary |
Refusing to send McKinnon to face trial in America, that is a country that has abolished the principle of Habeas Corpus for all political prisoners and concentration camp inmates, therefore putting itself beyond Common Law is not a safe place to send a vulnerable person. The safety of Gary McKinnon was tested, medically, legally, politically and socially and the United States has failed all the tests applied by its oldest friend, its special friend across the sea.
It is the will of the people who would never have let him go to America and of course Theresa May knows that....she is aware of the strength of feeling on this issue..... the US government may be very big in Westminster, but the British people are happily still a lot bigger.
Nevertheless, the courage to say no to the incandescent Washington law Commissars has given Mrs May a boost in prestige and it has shown consecutive Labour Home Secretaries including the current shadow Home Secretary Alan Johnson, for what they really are......whining transatlanticists.
We have heard legalistic arguments from Labour shills, but they are missing a huge point that actually they missed all the time they were in office... during the entire 13 years they colluded in war crimes and illegal invasions as Washington's pet poodles.
Johnson in an appalling attempt to appease Washington criticised the decision and he claimed Mrs May had made a decision which was "in her own party's best interests but it's not in the best interests of this country".
He doesn't say which country he is talking about but if he thinks he is talking about here he needs a reality transplant.
It takes more bottle than Mr Johnson's fellow travellers have ever shown to say no to Washington, and the reason has to be very, very big indeed ....it has to be overwhelming and it was.
Obviously there is a massive dollop of double standards here as well from a Home Secretary who earlier this month authorised a disabled man Abu Hamza to be extradited to the US, apparently after the (non-political?) Queen expressed a view that we should get rid of him.
This is a whole set of other issues which there is no space to get into here, but the British Royals should remember 30 January 1649* the date that changed everything even if it may appear often that little has changed.....The British Royal family should soberly reflect upon their place in the grand scheme of things... before getting involved in acts of political intrigue.
**This is particularly true this week...[for story please see ref link below].
But Gary McKinnon's case goes much deeper into the heart of British society and his extradition was simply impossible. Mrs May and her party are no friends of the Human Rights Act, but she was happy enough to justify her refusal to extradite on the basis of it, so who knows... maybe she has learned something from all this too?
We can only hope so.
If Alan Johnson can't understand all that he deserves to remain in the second division of a league (i.e. parliamentarians in general) that is widely despised across the land anyway. New Labour have had to break cover on this issue and they've backed the losers...again, how dumb can one party get?
Johnson is reported to have said: "Gary McKinnon is accused of very serious offences. The US was perfectly within its rights and it was extremely reasonable of them to seek his extradition."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19957138
This rank transatlantic toadyism characterises the New Labour Quisling Years of Blair and Brown, acting as they did as US governors of Airstrip One... where British interests were betrayed and English interests were never even acknowledged in the first place.
Gary McKinnon a Scot, has had the full support of this blog and its predecessor and so it can be gratifying to find ones views echoed in the real world, which means of course that such views have made the leap from heresy to orthodoxy .... now they are part of the mainstream .
Johnson I would suggest has just lost Labour the support of many hitherto sympathetic British voters...he is simply out of step with public opinion, which also suggests to me that Labour don't really want to be elected at all, so the kindest thing we can do is oblige them by not voting Labour again.
It is the will of the people who would never have let him go to America and of course Theresa May knows that....she is aware of the strength of feeling on this issue..... the US government may be very big in Westminster, but the British people are happily still a lot bigger.
Nevertheless, the courage to say no to the incandescent Washington law Commissars has given Mrs May a boost in prestige and it has shown consecutive Labour Home Secretaries including the current shadow Home Secretary Alan Johnson, for what they really are......whining transatlanticists.
We have heard legalistic arguments from Labour shills, but they are missing a huge point that actually they missed all the time they were in office... during the entire 13 years they colluded in war crimes and illegal invasions as Washington's pet poodles.
Johnson in an appalling attempt to appease Washington criticised the decision and he claimed Mrs May had made a decision which was "in her own party's best interests but it's not in the best interests of this country".
He doesn't say which country he is talking about but if he thinks he is talking about here he needs a reality transplant.
It takes more bottle than Mr Johnson's fellow travellers have ever shown to say no to Washington, and the reason has to be very, very big indeed ....it has to be overwhelming and it was.
Obviously there is a massive dollop of double standards here as well from a Home Secretary who earlier this month authorised a disabled man Abu Hamza to be extradited to the US, apparently after the (non-political?) Queen expressed a view that we should get rid of him.
This is a whole set of other issues which there is no space to get into here, but the British Royals should remember 30 January 1649* the date that changed everything even if it may appear often that little has changed.....The British Royal family should soberly reflect upon their place in the grand scheme of things... before getting involved in acts of political intrigue.
**This is particularly true this week...[for story please see ref link below].
But Gary McKinnon's case goes much deeper into the heart of British society and his extradition was simply impossible. Mrs May and her party are no friends of the Human Rights Act, but she was happy enough to justify her refusal to extradite on the basis of it, so who knows... maybe she has learned something from all this too?
We can only hope so.
If Alan Johnson can't understand all that he deserves to remain in the second division of a league (i.e. parliamentarians in general) that is widely despised across the land anyway. New Labour have had to break cover on this issue and they've backed the losers...again, how dumb can one party get?
Johnson is reported to have said: "Gary McKinnon is accused of very serious offences. The US was perfectly within its rights and it was extremely reasonable of them to seek his extradition."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19957138
This rank transatlantic toadyism characterises the New Labour Quisling Years of Blair and Brown, acting as they did as US governors of Airstrip One... where British interests were betrayed and English interests were never even acknowledged in the first place.
Gary McKinnon a Scot, has had the full support of this blog and its predecessor and so it can be gratifying to find ones views echoed in the real world, which means of course that such views have made the leap from heresy to orthodoxy .... now they are part of the mainstream .
Johnson I would suggest has just lost Labour the support of many hitherto sympathetic British voters...he is simply out of step with public opinion, which also suggests to me that Labour don't really want to be elected at all, so the kindest thing we can do is oblige them by not voting Labour again.
The Washington heavies wanted to capture a man with a learning disability - our fellow citizen, our Gary....and to torture him and inevitably kill him for embarrassing their multi-zillion dollar military industrial complex... that they so want to appear smart, worth all that debt they have created and all the tax they have collected for it.... but after Gary hacked into their computers they look like a bunch of the lumoxes incapable of looking after themselves... let alone competent to be the self-appointed guardians the Free World [sic].
Gary made those Masters of the Universe look pretty silly and they don't like it, but who cares what they like or don't like?
Gary made those Masters of the Universe look pretty silly and they don't like it, but who cares what they like or don't like?
They asked can 'we have him' and we answered 'no you cannot'!
The matter is now finally concluded.
The matter is now finally concluded.
Gary and Mother Janis Sharp who over 10 years of campaigning zeal, confident eloquence and crystal clear intelligence has single mindedly propelled the campaign to stop Gary's extradition to the United States from succeeding, she has now become a prized national asset!
Not even the British government thinks the excuse for a Justice system in America has any credibility left in the world of international law.
And it's as simple as that really, the psychopathic vengeance Washington has directed at Gary McKinnon is a symptom of the collective mental disorder that is endemic in the American judicial system, indeed it appears at all levels of government ....and incidentally it is why a failed state is currently collapsing into its own socio-economic footprint, abandoned and friendless anywhere and everywhere outside of Israel whose special relationship with the US is even more anally incestuous than ours has been.
And it's as simple as that really, the psychopathic vengeance Washington has directed at Gary McKinnon is a symptom of the collective mental disorder that is endemic in the American judicial system, indeed it appears at all levels of government ....and incidentally it is why a failed state is currently collapsing into its own socio-economic footprint, abandoned and friendless anywhere and everywhere outside of Israel whose special relationship with the US is even more anally incestuous than ours has been.
So there we are... a battle won, all done - Gary McKinnon will probably face trial here.... but he will benefit from a sense of proportion that to be perfectly honest makes the outcome of any future trial fairly predictable I think. Nods and winks all round here.
He got into the Pentagon computers... so well done, how very clever of him, you'd think they'd be grateful it was only Gary and not the head of THRUSH......or even our last sacrificial offering to America's judicial torture industry Mr Abu Hamza al-Mazri .....or whoever their Hollywood fantasy villain is today?
The Pentagon owe Gary one, but they also owe us all... the people of the UK... a big favour too. Be fair!
Having made a complete fool of the US military High Command once we won't now let their own dodgy lawyers make them suffer that humiliation over and over again. That would be cruel and unusual punishment I think and if we know about it..... we don't allow that here.... not from any quarter.
Theresa May has drawn a line under the extradition issue, there is nothing more to discuss now and so the matter is closed.
The Washington pack hounds are talking to our collective hand and not to our collective faces anymore, they need to know that nobody much is actually listening and our receiver is currently off the hook.
* 30 January 1649 was the day King Charles I of England was beheaded in London. The monarchy was then abolished and a republic called the Commonwealth of England, also referred to as the Cromwellian Interregnum, was declared. The republic's existence was initially declared by "An Act declaring England to be a Commonwealth" adopted by the Rump Parliament, on 19 May 1649. (Wikipedia - for more information please follow links to entries).
** http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/christopher-wilson/prince-charles-no-divine-right_b_1980192.html
The Pentagon owe Gary one, but they also owe us all... the people of the UK... a big favour too. Be fair!
Having made a complete fool of the US military High Command once we won't now let their own dodgy lawyers make them suffer that humiliation over and over again. That would be cruel and unusual punishment I think and if we know about it..... we don't allow that here.... not from any quarter.
Theresa May has drawn a line under the extradition issue, there is nothing more to discuss now and so the matter is closed.
The Washington pack hounds are talking to our collective hand and not to our collective faces anymore, they need to know that nobody much is actually listening and our receiver is currently off the hook.
* 30 January 1649 was the day King Charles I of England was beheaded in London. The monarchy was then abolished and a republic called the Commonwealth of England, also referred to as the Cromwellian Interregnum, was declared. The republic's existence was initially declared by "An Act declaring England to be a Commonwealth" adopted by the Rump Parliament, on 19 May 1649. (Wikipedia - for more information please follow links to entries).
** http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/christopher-wilson/prince-charles-no-divine-right_b_1980192.html





I agree with one of the bloggers in the comments section of the BBC link, AA. (G Thride)
ReplyDelete"This was the right decision...That said the US should be thanking him for showing the weakness in their security. As far as I'm aware he did not benefit financially from the alleged hacking and he did not pass on any information on to terrorists or state actors so he has done more good than harm."
Others pointed out, as you have,, the "lapdog" role that Blair and Gordie Browne had with George W. Bush during the Iraq War and how this has damaged the "special relationship" between the two countries. The English people in Britons in general I'm sure do not like to see their government at the beck-and-call of a foreign power, just as I heartily feel as an American citizen that our foreign policy should not be dictated to us from the Likud Party in Israel or from the gang of social fascists in Beijing or any capital in the EU countries.
It's rare to see you praise a member of the Tory-Lib government, AA. I hope you are not suffering from a case of "political vertigo" from it. ;-)
I am thankful that a mentally-challenged man will not be shipped to the States to go through some kind of judicial hell for a "crime" which to me was not terrorist-related and could only bring scorn and disdain down on Washington by leaders civilized world capitals. Thanks Ms. May, in other words, and thanks to you AA for keeping me up to date on this matter
It is I think important to highlight the 'special relationship' the Blair/Brown New Labourite's have had with President Bush a fellow partner in crime and with Barack Obama in the present.
DeleteUnfortunately things don't seem to be getting any better.
It is actually in global political terms quite a significant event that the UK government have been compelled to make a human rights argument almost against their deeply held commitment to transatlanticism.
There is a genuine element of people power behind this monumental decision to declare the US legal system unsafe and its exasperated indignation overblown.
Interesting times we are in.
The problem here is pretty much the same as the problem there as I see it Doug, there is only the right in the parliamentary power game here, the left were effectively expunged decades ago ....but the political arena is not divided along left-right lines anymore anyway although social class continues to play a very strong part it is no longer decisive.
So Theresa May made the right decision, jolly good....better than her lilly livered New Labour mewling predecessors anyway, so credit where it's due Doug. This blog is part of the mainstream now......so good reasons to push a bit further methinks.
Thanks for your observations here Doug, people are so much more important than nations, let alone regimes I think.....communication is vital.
I couldn't agree more, I breathed a sigh of relief when I heard this. The only surprise is that it took so long, (and that the decision came from the conservatives). Its quite a good feeling to know that out government has done something right and although I was never a great fan of the labour party, I did think they were the lesser of two evils, now I'm not so sure. And well done to his campaigning mother, without her making this so public, McKinnon would have been shipped out quietly years ago. I think there are going to be a good many ordinary Americans bewildered and enraged by this decision. Those that I engaged in conversation about this had the attitude that McKinnon had committed serious crimes against the American people and the sooner he faced the consequences the better, the thought that he would never be extradited never crossed their minds. Their system is indeed barbaric and vindictive. I hope Garry can find some peace now and be left alone to get on with his life.
ReplyDeleteThanks for your comments Loretta, I do agree that Gary's mom has been brilliant throughout, she has held firm and stood her ground admirably. The campaign has also been unrelenting in getting the story out and this is also a victory for all Gary's supporters who have stood by him often for years. I share your hope that Gary can now move on with his life and feel more safe now.
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